Asset Grouping for CMMS

 Hi All,

I’m looking for a fundamental Plant equipment grouping template for a power plant. It’s like a methodology of plant equipment grouping of systems.

This is done by “systems”:

Chill Water System-

   Chiller Systems:

          Chiller #01:

          Control & Instru. (CI) Systems:

                      Xmitter CH#1 DP (Equip no. #####)

          Xmitter CH#1 Press (Equip no. #####)

                     Xmitter CH#1 Temp (Equip no. #####)

          Electrical Systems:

                     Compressor Motor#1(Equip no. #####)

          VFD CH#1(Equip no. #####)

          XFMR CH#1(Equip no. #####)

          Mechanical Systems:

          Compressor #1(Equip no. #####)

          Evaporator#1(Equip no. #####)

          Condenser#1(Equip no. #####)

 or

 

   Boiler Systems:

          Boiler #01:

                      MudDrum #1                        

                                                  Control & Instru. (CI) Systems:

                                                                        Xmitter BLR#1 DP (Equip no. #####)

                                                             Xmitter BLR#1 Press (Equip no. #####)

                                                 Electrical Systems: none

                                                  Mechanical Systems:

          Blow-down valve(Equip no. #####)

          Check valve#1(Equip no. #####)

This is an equipment grouping hierarchy to load into a CMMS system to manage PM work and find costs. I know there are other ways like by Location or by Type but I need “by Systems”. Some have said to look at ISO 14442 and I have, very closely but I need an example or template to give me a solid idea to proceed, any help, is appreciated.

Thank you

Original Post

Hi Jim,

I understand what you're asking about but I'm not aware of any "standard power plant systems hierarchy template" that you could use to build your CMMS systems MEL.  Unless your power plant is of a very standardized construction, I don't think you'll find anything matching what you're asking for.  By design.  I've never seen any two power plants that were built exactly "cookie cutter" identical unless they're small government pre-fab projects for field deployment such as for military applications. 

There's no getting around the fact, in my experience and opinion, that the best (and really only) way to build your CMMS hierarchy correctly and completely for your power plant (which I assume does not conform to a known standardized design) is to open all your P&ID's, and start to systematically identify the Units, Systems, Process Areas, Subsystems, and so on down through the hierarchal layers;  ISO-14224 is a great standard for CMMS hierarchal designs.  But, by design, its structure overall is "open" so that it can be customized for each users application, such as you and your power plant.

First question I would ask is:  What do you define as a "System"?  Where are the process boundaries drawn for your "System"?

The P&ID-driven hierarchy builds in CMMS can be very tedious, time-consuming and frustrating. (Several years ago I was on a team for a large Oil & Gas client project that included walk down and building a fully compliant ISO-14224 CMMS hierarchy for a refinery with over 140,000 assets. A large number of man-hours were required to accomplish that task so, I hope you have some help with your job here.)  

I'm guessing that you already anticipate this and I bet that is the impetus for your seeking a "template" in your question above.  Even if you could find such a template that you "think" is close enough to your own plant to use, you might be able to accurately identify your major "Systems" well enough but, later when delving into the lower hierarchy levels that are the children of these parents, you'll very likely miss some details such as instrumentation. 

I wouldn't trust anybodys "template" to design my power plant CMMS records around, to answer your question directly.  

-skm 

skm

 I would agree with you, this is my second maybe third system to organize and ISO and P&ID are "it". The Uniformat II is asset based hierarchy and not system based( which we want). I was just hoping one last time before moving on to the task at hand for additional clarity. The P&ID are system based and really should be the guiding point, except some plant worker still want to call it "thing" and not the P&ID name.

Thank you very much

Jim

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