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AP/AL Sets are proprietary?

USMC 08 ·
I have an outside contractor collecting my vibration data and generating a report on a monthly basis. I have asked them to provide me with the AP and AL sets as a quality control measurement. They have claimed this to be proprietary information, and additionally, they also own the historical data because they own the database. Am I crazy to think they are way out of line? Disclaimer; There is not an internal spec written for how to collect data or how to define the parameters. Up until this...
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Are all cat 2 certifications internationally recognized?

xprmntl1 ·
I recently took the intermediate vibration analysis (cat 2) training at Emerson/CSI, and passed the exam, and was wondering if all certifications were equal. Emersons exam is ISO compliant, but is it equal to an ISO compliant certification from say Vibe Institute?  A coworker of mine who has certified through both says that Vibe Institute is the only internationally recognized certification there is. I have read that Emerson/Mobius/Vibe Institute are all ISO certified, so where is the...
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Commtest VB8

NewVibeTech ·
Does anyone know how to set up Triax data collection with Commtest VB8?
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COMMUNICATIONS ERROR CSI 2115

RAAL ·
Please your help: I have a csi 2115 (a little old) analyzer I'm trying to load the module FASTBALANCE , but I get the following error in the analyzer: COMMUNICATIONS ERROR CALLER ADDRESS: PRESS THE RESET 8C3C KEY TO CONTINUE. The process I'm doing with windows xp, and COM port, but the error persists.
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CSI 2130- testing Vehicle cab vibration

Vibsouth ·
Hi Guys we have a 2130 and would like to test the in-cab vibration of one of our ve hicle's. The reason why is that we have changed the tyres to a harder compound and the operators are feeling more d iscomfort, so I have been asked if we can test the vibration. Is there some way I can get the 2130 to run for 60 seconds or so to collect a continuous waveform? Thanks
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CSI "X" Function.....

Vibe-Rater ·
Hi All,   For those unfamiliar with the CSI "X" function I find it and absolute need to have in vibration analysis software when analysing. Ref another topic / thread on this...
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CSI AMS MHM Software

DGronski ·
Anyone try using CSI AMS MHM Software with Windows 10, yet? I have been using it for about a month. Seems to work fine in every aspect except when it comes to communicating with a 2130 analyzer. I can communicate with a 2120 just fine, but not a 2130. CSI won't even try to help, as the say they do not support Windows 10, yet, which is no surprise since they are always the last ones to approve their software with the latest operating system. I doubt that they even will try very hard, since...
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CSI Bearing database Nachi

Vibe-Rater ·
Hi all, I've had a bit of a look but could not find. Does anyone know if there are any Nachi bearings in the CSI factory provided bearing database. I tried to guess the prefix but not successful.   Even did a "blank" scan but the scroll is so...
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CSI/MHM adjustable envelope alarms

tcvib ·
All, I have been a CSI/Emerson user most of my career. Never really used autostat due to the complexity of it. I have recently started using SKF and find their envelope alarm editing very user friendly. I can pull what data I would like to build my alarm from and generate the alarm using the data I selected. I generally look back through my history and find a period of good operation and select 8 or 9 FFT to build my alarm from. Once the alarm is generated I go in and fine tune my alarms...
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Fluxcoil sensor CSI

doni jack2015 ·
Dear Gents, I'm looking for a supplier who can provide me a brand new CSI Model A343 Flux Coil sensor within a short periode of time 2 weeks from now, particularly in asia country, please suggest your recommendation, and contact me at donijack2015@gmail.com.
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Good PCB contact?

VibeMan81 ·
Does anyone have a really good contact at PCB who can help me figure out how to buy a connector for the CSI A0643TX triaxial accel (which they mfg for CSI), so I can get a coiled cable made for using it with the 2140 when running routes? 
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New Software for CSI in beta?

patrickmn77 ·
Has anyone heard about the new software being beta tested? We had an Emerson rep here yesterday who said there testing in 4 areas right now. Any of you testing?
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Not sure where to ask this

Jack1954 ·
Can I have a CSI database on a USB drive and access it with my desktop software.
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Run out

Abu ehan ·
Can we check run out with CSI 2130 hooked up with BN 3500 rack system, since we dont have a system 1?   if yes, guide me how?
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Vibration measures at voltage and no voltage

montaser ·
Dears, i'm facing high vibration on big motor in our plant and one of the recommendations to make vibration measurements at voltage and no voltage, can any one help about no voltage vibration measurements (our instrument is CSI 2130). Best Regards
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Where can I get AMS Machinery Manager?

BalancingVN ·
Hi everyone, I am planning to invest a CSI 2130 used but there is no AMS machinery manager software. Where can I get it? It is not included balancing function, how to I put it in firmware? Thanks in advance!
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What could be this instrument from CSI

montaser ·
Can anyone tell me what is the purpose of attached instrument from CSI. Thanks
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Re: CSI Bearing database Nachi

John from PA ·
I can't help you with a CSI database but you can determine the bearing frequencies directly from NACHI and then work backwards to the factors. It's a rather convoluted process to get to the proper area but basically follow these steps: Go to http://nachi-tool.jp/bearing/deep.php Insert bearing number (lower left) or use drop down menu to select (as an example I used 6324) Select BrgData (lower right corner) Click on Calc (green box) Select Vibration Analysis Input RPM (I used 1790 RPM) Click...
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Re: CSI Bearing database Nachi

Vibe-Rater ·
Hi John, thanks very much, I got there in the end but you are not wrong to say it is convoluted. I actually didn't get to the right place as per your instructions. Long story. And then the rounding is bad (no decimal places) and no choice for orders. But I got there. Thanks again. I didn' have that link. rgds
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Re: CSI Bearing database Nachi

Kos ·
Originally Posted by Vibe-Rater: And then the rounding is bad (no decimal places) and no choice for orders Hi, Just put 6000 as rpm and you'll get orders x100 Edit: Just have checked it and failed with sizes more then 6313 due to #overspeeding bpfi is 4.93 for 6313 Regards
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Re: CSI Bearing database Nachi

Vibe-Rater ·
I know that trick Kos but I use 60 rpm to give the proper order values. My point is I assume Nachi is a large company and should know better to include the relative frequency units of orders.rgds
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

Rusty Cas ·
Well Vibe, I'd have been using CSI for 20 years now and I had never NOTICED the 'X' key! I've used the 'H' function all along, but just never noticed the X key function. Geez... I thought you were my friend. What else are you not telling me about? "The trend is your friend" MachineryAnalysis.org
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

MachDiag ·
How sweet it is, that "X" cursor key (next harmonic family). Can't imagine how frustrating it'd become doing analysis without it. Although it's completely useless if you don't define 1xRPM (locate 1xRPM peak, hit the "Z" key, then "R", then enter). Hot keys & cursor keys are a natural for those who grew up using DOS versions of CSI's MasterTrend (or TEC's Intelli-Trend, for which CSI lost a copyright infringement battle over).
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

ConfMx ·
Hello everyone, Taking advantage forum CSI, I'm looking for a Software license or AMS MHM to combine its use with csi2130 equipment. Can someone help me out? Regards
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Re: Good PCB contact?

John from PA ·
Not exactly what you are after, but two straight cables are listed at https://www.ctconline.com/file...CSI_CMX2100_3_DS.pdf Scroll down once there and note P/N's CMX2139 or CMX2139-SFT. If you are dead set on a coiled cable, give those people a call. I have found them easy to work with as far as special cabling.
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Re: Good PCB contact?

VibeMan81 ·
That straight cable is the only one you can buy for the CSI triax. CTC cannot buy the connector that hooks up to the sensor. It comes with the cable attached. they just add the Turck end. i guess CSI did this to make more money?
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Re: Good PCB contact?

Ron Brook ·
Just call PCB/IMI in New York. Anyone there will help you. I've dealt with Eric Yax over the years. Those people are the best. I dealt with them for 40 years and NEVER was disappointed. 800-828-8840
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Re: Good PCB contact?

VibeMan81 ·
already called their support people. Took my number. didn't call me back. Contacted my sales people. They say sorry we don't have a coiled cable. That's why a wanted a name of somebody who maybe could get something done like tell the supplier to sell the connector to whoever needs it. The problem is they built a sensor with a single source connector and those people won't sell it to nobody else. I don't know if that was their idea or CSI's but it sucks for the user. I don't think PCB is a...
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Re: Good PCB contact?

John from PA ·
Originally Posted by VibeMan81: They say sorry we don't have a coiled cable. Personally I've never cared for the coiled type of cable because sometimes when stretched out it causes a side pull on the transducer affecting the mount and data.
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Re: Good PCB contact?

VibeMan81 ·
I guess opinions are fine but I don't see what yours has to do with the intent of this thread. I am new here, but is it common to post off-topic responses? Nevertheless, since you went down this path, I don't like having my cable tangled about my feet when climbing a ladder to a cooling tower or pump platform. How often, John, do you collect routes in an industrial setting? I am well aware of the nuances of good sensor mounting practices and I have used coiled cables for well over 20 years.
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Re: Good PCB contact?

John from PA ·
Originally Posted by VibeMan81: I guess opinions are fine but I don't see what yours has to do with the intent of this thread. I am new here, but is it common to post off-topic responses? Nevertheless, since you went down this path, I don't like having my cable tangled about my feet when climbing a ladder to a cooling tower or pump platform. How often, John, do you collect routes in an industrial setting? I am well aware of the nuances of good sensor mounting practices and I have used coiled...
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Re: Good PCB contact?

VibeMan81 ·
But have you ever run routes on a regular basis out in the plants? That is the only time I use a coiled cable. I do not stand 6 ft away with the cable all stretched out. I stand close to the machine with the cable unstretched and holding the cable so there is slack at the sensor to prevent cable strain. The coiled cable just stays out of my way as I move around the plant.
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Re: Where can I get AMS Machinery Manager?

Shurafa ·
I guess the firmware is serialized as it comes from the vendor. So, I guess adding new functions (e.g. balancing if not already included) can be done only through the vendor. CSI 2130 is about to be considered obsolete. You like to consider that as a factor if your plan is for a long term use. Regards- Ali M. Al-Shurafa
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Re: Where can I get AMS Machinery Manager?

Chris184 ·
I would agree with Shurafa if it was my own personal investment and I was in it for the long haul. I will attach a letter I have from Emerson/CSI stating the end of the life cycle, including all product support for the 2130. I will also tell you that the AMS software is pricey. Last I checked is was somewhere around $19,000USD for the silver package and $32,500USD for the platinum package. Additionally if you look at a 4ch 2140 that will set you back another $33,000USD. Those are new prices...
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Re: Where can I get AMS Machinery Manager?

BalancingVN ·
Thanks all for advice. Can you suggest me for any equipment below 15k$?
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Re: Where can I get AMS Machinery Manager?

Bill Kilbey ·
I have MHM Silver ver. 4.9 for sale. bkilbey@gmail.com
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

NewVibeTech ·
I'm a long time CSI user who just recently started using Commtest VB8 and Ascent software. I find not having the "X" button very frustrating. I hope they add it to the next upgrade they do on The software if possible.......
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

CETMA ·
My favorite 2 keys were X - harmonics, and L - fault frequencies
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

Ayaz Ahmed ·
X along with D (Remove peaks) and G (restore Peaks) are very useful keys.
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

rgf12 ·
If you expand the right drop down menu in RBMWare there is a button with a red key-that shows all the "hot buttons". I suspect I'm like most users and only use a couple when reviewing data-there is way too many to remember.
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

Rang ·
CTRL-H for hotkeys Long time user of MHM as well, I found Ascent a bit average, and the data collector below average. Lets not forget about autocorrelate and circular plot functions in MHM, and if we are comparing a 2140 with a Vb device then the dynamic range of the 2140 saves you time by not autoranging. I don't sell anything but I was disappointed with other vendors, coming from csi gear. Saying that MHM is a dinosaur of a program and needs updating.
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Re: CSI "X" Function.....

Sinski ·
What about the 'K' key where it will match harmonics with the bearing you have added to that point!!!
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Re: Where can I get AMS Machinery Manager?

Prism ·
Vendor Warning GTI Predictive Technology offers portable vibration data collectors, wireless sensors, remote analysis tools and balancing for under $10,000 https://www.gtipredictive.com/
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Re: Where can I get AMS Machinery Manager?

OLI ·
You can turn to http://www.vmiab.com/ for a reseller near you. Olov
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Re: Run out

Abu ehan ·
Dear, What is the reason, if steam turbine vibration jumps sudden from 0 microns to 60 microns in less than a sec.
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Re: Run out

John from PA ·
Originally Posted by Abu ehan: A CSI 2130 is not perfect in this regard but can help you establish runout amplitude. It is simply a matter of observing the signal/signals while the machine transits its speed range. Preferably this is done on a shutdown. If the magnitude remains high as the machine comes to a stop then there is a good chance you have runout. Originally Posted by Abu ehan: On the amplitude jumping from 0 to 60 microns in less than a second...is this just a question you have or...
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Re: Run out

Abu ehan ·
Yes,its a real situtaion. You are rgiht, we have a peoximity probes, and observed sudden peak from only one side. Unfortunately, we dont have a continuos monitoring system. WIth the help of DCS trend we doing increase our grpah resolution (X axis) by minutes and observe this sudden vibration peak from 0 rpm to full speed Originally Posted by John from PA: Originally Posted by Abu ehan: A CSI 2130 is not perfect in this regard but can help you establish runout amplitude. It is simply a matter...
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Re: Run out

John from PA ·
Originally Posted by Abu ehan: Yes,its a real situtaion. You are rgiht, we have a peoximity probes, and observed sudden peak from only one side. Unfortunately, we dont have a continuos monitoring system. WIth the help of DCS trend we doing increase our grpah resolution (X axis) by minutes and observe this sudden vibration peak from 0 rpm to full speed I'm confused. Based on your previous input I assumed this was a running machine that suddenly jumped from a low amplitude to a high amplitude...
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Re: Run out

Abu ehan ·
Other probe reads same low level (15 microns) as like started up.the gap voltage at the s/d level -10. While running -9.4. its a steam turbine drives boiler feed water pump, sleeve bearing.. From instrument side they confirmed that all ok. But we don't know what causes this turbine for this high vibration. vibration shouted immediately once machine started, and also the vibration trends stops immediately at 3600rpm where full speed is 4800rpm. Why this scenario happenD? The vibration should...
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Re: Run out

Edwin de B ·
Do I understand well that the high vibration is not present at normal speed? It can be that the turbine goes through a critical speed. It can be vibration is higher in one direction because of an eliptic orbit. If vibration is ok at normal running speed, I would not do anything about it.
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